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Marzan said: Was I the only one that for a moment thought when going to the sea was brought up, "Oh God, please no, not a swimsuit episode in Sidonia!". Luckily it turned out to be something infinitely cooler and more in the tone of the series. Yeah I'm actually glad they changed it so that they only went into the sea instead of going to the beach like they did in the manga. Man Momose ruining it for everyone. I don't mind that she was the one to be caught instead of the other three men, nor do I mind that Akai would try to save her and sacrifice himself because she's the love of his life...but it really just sucks that she ended up being partially the reason why the team failed. I don't know if they could've killed the Gauna or not even if Momose didn't go insane, but she probably caused the team to fail quicker. It's like someone else said though, they're great inside the arena, but it's different in real battle (heh, the other SnK). Anyways, Yuhata's brother was killed too :( they seemed like close siblings. |
Madara31 said: ex_necross said: Even in those types of animes, Seikoku no Dragonar for example, damsels in distress are still present, and I do watch those animes so I know what I'm talking about. Having a male who's a pushover doesn't mean the girls won't get into situations where they need saving, as unfortunate as that sounds.Madara31 said: Well I didn't intend it to be, but what I said is still true. Most of the mainstream anime nowadays that I know of includes some pussy ass beta male being pushed around and made a bitch of by females. So no, I would say it's not true. Quite the opposite. Of course, I obviously haven't watched those anime, but I still know how they work. In current anime, male characters that get pushed around, slapped about, yelled at for looking at a female wrong without speaking up for himself, and all around abused is a far more common trope than damsel in distress. Sorry dude but I mean cmon. You must just be ignoring it, because it happens in just about EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of most anime in the past 10 or so years. |
Marzan said: Was I the only one that for a moment thought when going to the sea was brought up, "Oh God, please no, not a swimsuit episode in Sidonia!". Luckily it turned out to be something infinitely cooler and more in the tone of the series. I mean, I never expected to see yukata's in space. That's actually part of appeal of Sidonia. It takes anime cliches and presents them in very un-anime ways. Madara31 said: I really hope not all the females will be useless damsels in distress like Momose was. I really didn't expect that from this show, but it seems that stupid trope is becoming more and more inescapable by the season. *Sigh*. Gender does not matter. There has been no gaunas for 100 years. Most of pilots that are here right now never even seen one. Nasty001 said: Geeez, why didn't they just nuke that damned Gauna? Would not help the big fucking explosive thing they used in previous episode easily tops nukes, but as long as the core survives, Gauna regenerates. |
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| Some practice mecha battles. The elite 4 sure stands out with their skills. Kunato got owned pretty good. XD Izana gets jealous once again.. Shizuka looks nice in a yukata though. :) If Nagate wasn't physically weak; Kunato could've got owned again.. Death flag raised for the elite 4.. Yuhata seems a bit more interested in Nagate. ;) Good start to the battle and bad end. Akai squad is annihilated by the Gauna.. Sad episode.. |
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| Obviously they all had to die to pave the way for Nagate's superiority. |
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ex_necross said: No I 100% agree with you, unjustified female on male physical abuse is far more common than damsels in distress, but the latter is still relatively common as a trope. Besides, that wasn't what we were discussing. I only mentioned the latter trope because that was what essentially caused the 4 of them to get wiped out. But you're right, the former trope is more common and I find it just as annoying.Madara31 said: ex_necross said: Even in those types of animes, Seikoku no Dragonar for example, damsels in distress are still present, and I do watch those animes so I know what I'm talking about. Having a male who's a pushover doesn't mean the girls won't get into situations where they need saving, as unfortunate as that sounds.Madara31 said: Well I didn't intend it to be, but what I said is still true. Most of the mainstream anime nowadays that I know of includes some pussy ass beta male being pushed around and made a bitch of by females. So no, I would say it's not true. Quite the opposite. Of course, I obviously haven't watched those anime, but I still know how they work. In current anime, male characters that get pushed around, slapped about, yelled at for looking at a female wrong without speaking up for himself, and all around abused is a far more common trope than damsel in distress. Sorry dude but I mean cmon. You must just be ignoring it, because it happens in just about EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of most anime in the past 10 or so years. |
Madara31 said: ex_necross said: No I 100% agree with you, unjustified female on male physical abuse is far more common than damsels in distress, but the latter is still relatively common as a trope. Besides, that wasn't what we were discussing. I only mentioned the latter trope because that was what essentially caused the 4 of them to get wiped out. But you're right, the former trope is more common and I find it just as annoying.Madara31 said: ex_necross said: Even in those types of animes, Seikoku no Dragonar for example, damsels in distress are still present, and I do watch those animes so I know what I'm talking about. Having a male who's a pushover doesn't mean the girls won't get into situations where they need saving, as unfortunate as that sounds.Madara31 said: Well I didn't intend it to be, but what I said is still true. Most of the mainstream anime nowadays that I know of includes some pussy ass beta male being pushed around and made a bitch of by females. So no, I would say it's not true. Quite the opposite. Of course, I obviously haven't watched those anime, but I still know how they work. In current anime, male characters that get pushed around, slapped about, yelled at for looking at a female wrong without speaking up for himself, and all around abused is a far more common trope than damsel in distress. Sorry dude but I mean cmon. You must just be ignoring it, because it happens in just about EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of most anime in the past 10 or so years. Except that both tropes are sexist. Even the "female abuse on males" is played for laughs and fanservice, objectifying the said female character. That's one of problems with sexism - it might portray one gender as "stronger" but in reality NEITHER gender benefits from it |
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| damnnnn great episode. Aoki and Momose had death flags on them but I wasn't expecting the whole team to get annihilated. Pretty cool that they have the sea up in the stratosphere. The Sidonia universe continues to impress me. I guess this is where the turning point for Nagate to step into action comes. |
| They really sucked for top pilots. I guess someone forgot about proper combat simulations and teaching them how to follow orders. Without some deus ex machinal model 17 saving the day every time, Sidonia is screwed with soldiers like this. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
Madara31 said: ex_necross said: It's not a feminist rant, I just find it annoying that female characters are so often depicted in this manner in action animes. That's all. Although it becoming more and more common was just an exaggeration.Madara31 said: ex_necross said: Madara31 said: I really hope not all the females will be useless damsels in distress like Momose was. I really didn't expect that from this show, but it seems that stupid trope is becoming more and more inescapable by the season. *Sigh*. Please stop. What issue do you have with what I said? The whole feminist rant. Please stop. Agreed. Momose's whole behavior was exaggerated in anime, too. Those screams... I hope we won't see any more of female-only incompetence in Sidonia. Hoshijiro is, if I remember correctly, the second best trainee, followed by Honoka sisters. They need to do something badass. |
| Welp. Tanikaze is their last hope. |
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| Damn , I didn't really expect that total slaughter. |
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| Well, I suppose it was their last date after all. lol |
| 06:40 Yuhatan kawaii 10:51 Hoshijiro's also nice ne 13:10 dat bstrd 16:31 i've a bad feeling 17:36 "heart, pressure, temperature, brain" 21:20 "let go of Akaikun!!" Dang. 8/10 for this episode. 8.5/10 for dat preview. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
lugia2142 said: Whats with sidonia's military. They make little preparations and their tactics are too simple. On the side note. putting two lovebirds in the same squad. Not a good idea. Don't worry, they'll improve. |
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| Wow all 4 were killed in a instant. Who's going to stop it now? |
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| My Lain, that fight was pathetic. Aside from the female being completely useless and screwing everything up EVEN THOUGH SHE'S A TOP PILOT SUPPOSEDLY, the fight was really lame, well... Because the Gauna just doesn't seem threatening enough; it looks like a Tangela thrown in space, all it has are some tentacles, while the mechas each have a dozen weapons, PLUS the huge cannons aboard Sidonia (Hey guys, why don't you just... Ya know... Use that giant cannon to push Gauna away every time it comes close?). With that said, Gauna just doesn't seem powerful enough for me to see it as a real threat, and yet it manages to kill off the characters in a minute, but the poor screenplay never really shows how did the tentacles manage to smash them; they just do. And that leaves a bad impression. So they obviously just killed off the top crew simply as a lame plot device, and to force MC and the newbies to go to fight. On a side note, I still don't really understand the idea behind those spears... Why are they the only thing that can kill a Gauna? It's never properly explained. As someone already stated, can't they just nuke them? And since the mecha heads can, as shown, be detached, why can't the pilots simply use them as an escape pod if their mecha gets caught? Oh and as long as they are fightng tentacles, which can obviously be cut, why don't they just make a mecha with blades everywhere? Like Senketsu Blade? Would help them to break out free instead of being completely helpless as soon as a single tentacle so much as touches them... |
ElectromistressApr 25, 2014 6:39 PM
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| The problem were the tentacles, not so much male/female/3rdgender pilots. Tentacles vs anime girl is always a bad idea. |
| “A grown man does not apologize. It lowers the value of his soul.” -Araragi Koyomi |
| ^Yeah I know that they have a limited supply of spears, but the anime never explained why only the spears are effective for killing Gauna. Oh and Kunato is being annoying as fuck. I mean, I get it, he's a high level patrician or something and thinks too highly of himself, but shit bro, that doesn't mean you can just go around on the street pushing and hitting people. I think the author is just being a tryhard and wants to force down our throats the idea that Kunato is a dick and we should all hate him, and that makes me roll my eyes. |
ElectromistressApr 25, 2014 6:55 PM
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| Midorikawa's last words to her brother: "I hate you" Nice. |
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Electromaster said: ^Yeah I know that they have a limited supply of spears, but the anime never explained why only the spears are effective for killing Gauna. Because they contain a substance that disintegrates the placenta and stops it from regenerating. I don't remember if the anime said that, but it was at the beginning of the manga. Now, what substance is that, I think it'll be explained afterwards. |
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| Epic, the rating this show has is embarrassing. Not that MAL ratings reflects accurately on shows anyway. |
| Ugh, why can't they just live happily in their floating bubble? I LOVE anime that takes place in a cool setting completely different than the world we know. The sea thing was awesome. For some reason, I also like the subtle romantic comedic elements in this anime. They are done in a way that is funny without being immature. I love the preview music that plays after the ending! |
| Kunato is the usual dick, pushing and bullying everyone he can get away with. But Akai and fellows were pretty cool. He was sorry after more or less pushing Tanikaze over, and not only did he invite the main character to the reservoir, but the girl (i can't remember their names when they all look the same..) that just happend to be there, too, after he saw how excited she was for Tanikaze The interaction between the two girls was nicely done, too. While the one was a bit jealous, she didn't call Tanikaze "idiot" or anything just because he happens to have met another girl more or less randomly. And the other one did help both of them and was not like "serves that bitch right, trying to steal my Tanikaze". That fight though..sure, no actual combat experience. But with them training that much in the simulator, and even students coming up with battle plans, one would expect more. And why didn't they use the mass driver and immediate follow up with a sortie? The gauna took several days until it fully healed, it would be (at least compared to the way it was now) helpless. And they showed that they can aim that carefully. As it's not radiation or even an actual explosion, they could have easily swooped in right after. And if they were able to fire a spear like that.. |
| WHAT A EPISODE. Truly brutal. I thought that at least one of them would have survived but it seems I was utterly wrong. Hell, this is becoming more and more exciting. Build-up of confidence then SBANG. That's how I like it. Momose was quite annoying though. |
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| A mind fucking episode. The screaming sadness imbued with vengeance and tragedy. This episode made me nergasm. This is anime done right. Such a masterpiece only averages a 7.25, while drivel like Date A Live II has a 7.88. What is wrong with this world. |
Reite said: Agreed. Momose's whole behavior was exaggerated in anime, too. Those screams... I hope we won't see any more of female-only incompetence in Sidonia. Hoshijiro is, if I remember correctly, the second best trainee, followed by Honoka sisters. They need to do something badass. Yuhata is kind of cool :) Which reminds me, I think she should be considered as one of the main characters. Don't know what other people who have read the manga think though. |
| It was obviously coming, but I really hoped they wouldn't get wiped like this. I think the bigges issue is that we're getting somewhat awkward 'partial' views of the whole battle - the way it was done didn't really portray a constant danger from the Gauna. The weakness/poor discipline of the squad's attack could probably be attributed to their greenness and possibly a downplaying of actual Gauna strength in simulators - we haven't really been shown what sort of drilling and training practices the pilots get. Litrydow said: I'm fairly certain the anime mentioned it in passing, maybe during one of the classes.Electromaster said: ^Yeah I know that they have a limited supply of spears, but the anime never explained why only the spears are effective for killing Gauna. Because they contain a substance that disintegrates the placenta and stops it from regenerating. I don't remember if the anime said that, but it was at the beginning of the manga. As for those asking why they didn't pound it with the cannon from the start - I'd presume that doing so would only knock it away again, making it impossible to destroy the core and 'kill' the Gauna. That's also presuming that the Gauna flies on a simple enough trajectory for them to hit. |
| Whelp that does it for me. I hope Kunato get's his ass kicked and then killed by Nagate....or the Gauna. |
| Damn, I expected there would be casualties, maybe one or two, but the whole squad? It seems their training isn't good enough. I guess it can be justified by all those years without anyone having actual combat experience, or there needs to be a new harder difficulty for their simulation. I wonder though, they only prepared a subjugation squad of four for the threat? You would think that they would have at least a backup squad prepared for immediate action for something that threatening. They seem to not take this seriously enough, and they'll pay the price from what I can gather from the preview. Really enjoying Sidonia with its more "realistic" approach. Can't wait for next week |
| Izana sexy legs was the best thing in this episode |
NwAurion said: That fight though..sure, no actual combat experience. But with them training that much in the simulator, and even students coming up with battle plans, one would expect more. And why didn't they use the mass driver and immediate follow up with a sortie? The gauna took several days until it fully healed, it would be (at least compared to the way it was now) helpless. And they showed that they can aim that carefully. As it's not radiation or even an actual explosion, they could have easily swooped in right after. And if they were able to fire a spear like that.. It's kind of like training by yourself then suddenly performing in front of a live audience. No amount of VR simulation can prepare them for it. Also, they didn't use the mass driver because they can't actually hit the Guana with it at that distance. The Guana will have enough time to evade it and they'd have wasted it. |
| Damn, that is some brutal stuff. Didn't expect the top pilots to get killed off like that. Felt like they all died because of Momose. Kunato, what an asshole. Shit's gonna get crazy next episode. |
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| I also didn't like how the show played on the "girls always need help" trope. With that said, I don't think Momose acted out of character. Considering she's still such a young girl whose never actually fought a Gauna, that seemed pretty normal. |
| i dont understand how this show is getting such a low rating, my honest opinion is that that this shit is good 9/10 so far...keeping it real with them deaths and the only thing that pisses me off are the female characters as many have said. All they do is bring the group down, where are all the strong women pilots, fuq |
| It's good to remember that this was like the first time they have actually fought a Gauna for 100 YEARS. You can't learn fighting simply by doing simulations, you need pure experience too. The Gauna's strength and the real sense of danger completely surprised the A-team, resulting the team being wiped entirely. |
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| After have spent the last 2 days reading the manga... i can say the manga is better *surprise surprise* They have skipped my favorite parte tho: |
maxsonApr 26, 2014 3:43 AM
| the balance between furthering the plot and characters is really good. and i've gotten used to the 3d rendering of the characters now, makes a lot of sense in the context of the show |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| Such a good shows. the cgi fit really well for the anime. |
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