VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

ChipLecsap · Dec 11, 2023

dalli_x said:
I noticed something else that is very strange.

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There is nothing strange about this, You can tell Josy in episode 5 you prefer a bit of bush, and this is her surprise to MC, that is why this scene has 2 variant, it's a nice thing finally from DPC

Bootyman92 · Dec 11, 2023

aykarin said:
I see that a lot of people here still dismiss Patrick (Maya's father) as absolute scum, but after this episode my view of him became much more sympathetic. We learned he took care of his whole family (chronically ill wife and two children) almost by himself for many years, which must have been extremely hard and tiring. This experience would certainly break many people. Even though it doesn't change the fact that what Patrick does to Maya (trying to control her adult life, using physical force against her) is wrong and shouldn't be allowed, saying simply that he is 'a scum' is just plain stupid. This entire situation is very hard to judge objectively.

Certainly Maya, even though she is a victim, doesn't make things better with her behavior. She seems to be completely oblivious to the hardships of her family and just cares about being validated and supported in every way. She is ungrateful for the things her father suffered for many years for the family's well-being. She never tried to work to support herself financially. She takes money from her father (who supports the entire household by himself) to pursue a dream career by studying social work in college, but at the same time opposes his efforts to influence her way of life. Adulthood doesn't work that way. Either you become independent economically and then have the ability to shape your own future - or you accept financial dependence on your family, but then you should accept that the family supporting you will have some leverage over you and can make demands. Stephen Burke rightfully pointed that out to Maya in Episode 9 when he suggested maybe she should drop out from college for now, seek a job, work to become independent and then return for education.

Maya's father certainly abuses his power over her, but it doesn't change the fact that Maya acts like a irresponsible, ungrateful moron. Her only actual skill is playing the victim.

I'm going to clash your view on Maya with this:

Yes, Patrick is a dedicated family man, who has given a lot for his family. And given the difficulty of their situation with Helen's health, I can definitely sympathize that it is not easy for him.

However, his approach to his relationship with Maya is completely wrong. Coercing his daughter into obeying him because they have opposing beliefs on her relationship is very damaging.

As a Christian myself, I don't judge same sex relationships because it is not my place to.

Maya isn't a spoiled brat who's insisting on having her way and being coddled with every decision she makes. She's a good daughter who has a dream to assist others through the social work she is studying towards. She's also a daughter who has a complicated relationship with her father because she is afraid of him. The one person who is meant to be a safe place for her, and protect, guide and love her is forcibly controlling towards her simply because he doesn't agree with her sexuality. She can't trust him with anything she's feeling or going through because she is afraid that he will judge and hurt her for that. And that is a seriously miserable relationship for a parent and child to be in.

No parent has the right to forcibly impose their beliefs or way of thinking on their child. Parents have the responsibility to raise and guide their children to the best of their ability to be capable adults, because there will be a day where their children will have to go on without them. Not to mention, I'd feel terrible if my own child couldn't trust me, because that speaks volumes about the kind of parent I'd be.

Patrick needs to realize that if he continues to go down this path, his relationship with Maya will always be fractured and complicated. And there is a definite possibility that should Maya gain her independence, their relationship will be severely limited. I've seen instances like this happen and it's something the parent always comes to regret.

ReallyNotTimmy · Dec 11, 2023

dalli_x said:
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Stephen isn’t actually threatening Jade. He tells her he expects to divorce her and give her half their marital assets (i.e. everything the two of them acquired while married, which includes the millions he made at the brokerage). That’s typical in a no-fault community property divorce settlement.

If she foregoes that settlement and sues for damages, she won’t get anywhere. Adultery isn’t illegal, and in almost every state adultery isn’t considered grounds for damages. Jade won’t get another cent more unless there was a prenuptual agreement which penalizes either spouse for adultery. And, as stated, they had no prenup. She gets half.

That is, unless one or the other is embarrassed by the adultery. Then you can blackmail the other into accepting less than half. Blackmail is illegal; it’s a risk you take because you figure the blackmailee desperately doesn’t want word getting out of their adultery, because they have something big to lose. Like ruining your career as an educator because you’re fucking your students.

Krytax123 · Dec 11, 2023

ChipLecsap said:
you can punch him in the face, that what he deserved
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I dont know man, if he really would have hit maya i would agree. But i cant help myself and pitty this guy at this point somewhat, his life is too big of a burden for him to carry and while his actions towards maya suck badly, his intentions are kinda good.

He's sacrificing his whole life and happyness for his wife and family thats why i give him some slack. And punching your girlfriends or friends parent isnt really a great long term solution anyway lol.

I would prefer a outcome were patrick realises his misguided actions towards maya and they can stay a family (which maya seems to want, she doesnt want him out of her life, she wants his acceptance).

And i kinda feel/hope that the whole loan-stuff is kinda patrick bluffing, i think he's just paying for her college and the loan is fake which is kinda supported by the stuff maya is saying about her credit scores (damn shes so clueless lol).

ChipLecsap · Dec 11, 2023

Takkatakka said:
How do you punch him and get the contract...

I didn't got that option when I punched him...

He is an abusive father who emotionally and physically abusing his kids. A punch to his face is the least he deserve, the thing what would hurt the cause if you fail to get the document.
He neede that reality check wiht that punch in my opinion.

Well, I was polite with him during the first meeting back in episode 7, and during this episode to, until the abuse. and I did not rub in to his face the " MY Father let me be who I wanna be " thing.

Darkwen · Dec 11, 2023

dalli_x said:
In J/M's relationship journey, both of them are in love with the MC. Remember: if you played correctly, all three will be in agreement at the end of EP9, so there will be no competition between them.

However, we learn that Josy has had a long-standing crush on the MC because she has an old Rooster picture of the MC on her phone. How old is the rooster avatar? Maybe Maya has that old avatar picture of the MC too?

In EP9, the MC can ask Maya what picture she is masturbating to, and Maya then asks Josy the same thing. Both prefer to drink. Then in EP10 the MC discovers his old rooster avatar picture on Josy's phone. Both have had a crush on the MC for a long time. Where did she get the MC's old avatar picture? The MC stayed in touch with Zoey through Rooster while she was in San Diego. That's why they have the image. They followed Zoeys and the MC's Rooster Clucks.

I'm just wondering if Maya got her piercing done in San Diego? Maybe the piercing was Emma's?

I noticed something else that is very strange.

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Both girls love mc but it feels stronger with Josy. The photo Josy has of mc is from there first date in ep 1 she turns super so that date means a lot to Josy. If mc tells Josy in ep 5 he likes a little bit of a bush she will have one in this scene

Hahn1900 · Dec 11, 2023

HAAHHAAAAA, i played all my chick routes and now i played my neutral Jill playthrough... and got to the shrooms first time

thats the total best scene in the whole game so far!

To Sally: "She speaks in tongues. I will need to find some kind of thesaurus to continue my quest" Oh fuck iam dying

Takkatakka · Dec 11, 2023

Bootyman92 said:
However, his approach to his relationship with Maya is completely wrong. Coercing his daughter into obeying him because they have opposing beliefs on her relationship is very damaging.

Obviously what he does to Maya is not excusable at any rate, but it is somewhat understandable now.

He got his faith from his wife and he wants Helen's dream of Maya marring and founding a family to come true and that can't happen in a homosexual relationship with another woman (at least not from his point of view). So trying to force Maya to be "straight" (which obviously can't work), is his warped way of trying to make Helen's hopes and dreams become reality.

siemanko123 · Dec 11, 2023

anyone knows what scenes I'm missing? thanks in advance

Mike Hunt TG · Dec 11, 2023

Hahn81 said:
you can deactivate them, via console.
minigames = False

thats it. No mod needed and you dont screw up your saves or the game either.

How does one bring up the Console?

Takkatakka · Dec 11, 2023

ChipLecsap said:
He is an abusive father who emotionally and physically abusing his kids. A punch to his face is the least he deserve, the thing what would hurt the cause if you fail to get the document.
He neede that reality check wiht that punch in my opinion.

Well, I was polite with him during the first meeting back in episode 7, and during this episode to, until the abuse. and I did not rub in to his face the " MY Father let me be who I wanna be " thing.

Maybe that was it...I honestly don't remember what I did in the old episodes in my DIK playthrough.

dalli_x · Dec 11, 2023

ReallyNotTimmy said:
Stephen isn’t actually threatening Jade. He tells her he expects to divorce her and give her half their marital assets (i.e. everything the two of them acquired while married, which includes the millions he made at the brokerage). That’s typical in a no-fault community property divorce settlement.

If she foregoes that settlement and sues for damages, she won’t get anywhere. Adultery isn’t illegal, and in almost every state adultery isn’t considered grounds for damages. Jade won’t get another cent more unless there was a prenuptual agreement which penalizes either spouse for adultery. And, as stated, they had no prenup. She gets half.

That is, unless one or the other is embarrassed by the adultery. Then you can blackmail the other into accepting less than half. Blackmail is illegal; it’s a risk you take because you figure the blackmailee desperately doesn’t want word getting out of their adultery, because they have something big to lose. Like ruining your career as an educator because you’re fucking your students.

Stephen has found his balls again, the way he treats Jade. He has something on Jade, I'm sure.

Ottoeight · Dec 11, 2023

Krytax123 said:
I dont know man, if he really would have hit maya i would agree. But i cant help myself and pitty this guy at this point somewhat, his life is too big of a burden for him to carry and while his actions towards maya suck badly, his intentions are kinda good.

He's sacrificing his whole life and happyness for his wife and family thats why i give him some slack. And punching your girlfriends or friends parent isnt really a great long term solution anyway lol.

I would prefer a outcome were patrick realises his misguided actions towards maya and they can stay a family (which maya seems to want, she doesnt want him out of her life, she wants his acceptance).

And i kinda feel/hope that the whole loan-stuff is kinda patrick bluffing, i think he's just paying for her college and the loan is fake which is kinda supported by the stuff maya is saying about her credit scores (damn shes so clueless lol).

Well, the right outcome is definitely MC showing sympathy for Maya and avoiding a scene with Patrick, of course.

ChipLecsap · Dec 11, 2023

Krytax123 said:
I dont know man, if he really would have hit maya i would agree. But i cant help myself and pitty this guy at this point somewhat, his life is too big of a burden for him to carry and while his actions towards maya suck badly, his intentions are kinda good.

He's sacrificing his whole life and happyness for his wife and family thats why i give him some slack. And punching your girlfriends or friends parent isnt really a great long term solution anyway lol.

I would prefer a outcome were patrick realises his misguided actions towards maya and they can stay a family (which maya seems to want, she doesnt want him out of her life, she wants his acceptance).

And i kinda feel/hope that the whole loan-stuff is kinda patrick bluffing, i think he's just paying for her college and the loan is fake which is kinda supported by the stuff maya is saying about her credit scores (damn shes so clueless lol).

dude he emotionally and physically abusing his kids and it's not a first time thing. He also such a good christian he hide porn magazine in his drawer.

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Violence may be not be the answer, but it's often the solution, and in that case, Yes, punch him in the face.

Hahn1900 · Dec 11, 2023

Darkwen said:
Both girls love mc but it feels stronger with Josy. The photo Josy has of mc is from there first date in ep 1 she turns super so that date means a lot to Josy. If mc tells Josy in ep 5 he likes a little bit of a bush she will have one in this scene

I played my neutral-allin playthrough just right now... in episode 8 going for Jill, so breakup with Josy and Maya. Josy is total devasted, and she said it herself that she was in love with him, and maya (sage too) are telling that they feel something for MC but not as strong as Josy obviously...

Its not really hard to figure that out without doing a "breakup" with them... Especially at episode 7 and 8 its clear as daylight that Josys feeling are WAY stronger towards MC than Mayas. Even Elena sees that "this is love"

Josy is my favorite girl, was kinda hard to watch that... but curiosity got the better of me.

Well the shrooms saved my mood at least

dalli_x · Dec 11, 2023

Darkwen said:
Both girls love mc but it feels stronger with Josy. The photo Josy has of mc is from there first date in ep 1 she turns super so that date means a lot to Josy. If mc tells Josy in ep 5 he likes a little bit of a bush she will have one in this scene

This is normal considering Maya's past. Maya learned from her father that men cannot be trusted. The MC solves this blockage for Maya. This distrust has grown over the years and cannot be eliminated in just a few months. But Maya is opening up more and more.

Josy didn't have this disadvantage.

ChipLecsap · Dec 11, 2023

Ottoeight said:
Well, the right outcome is definitely MC showing sympathy for Maya and avoiding a scene with Patrick, of course.

we don't know that yet.

the most important part is obviously getting the documents, that's what matters.

Krytax123 · Dec 11, 2023

ChipLecsap said:
dude he emotionally and physically abusing his kids and it's not a first time thing. He also such a good christian he hide porn magazine in his drawer. .

Violence may be not be the answer, but it's often the solution, and in that case, Yes, punch him in the face.

He isnt a "good christian" (and they are usually the worst anyway *cough*), he's just doing this stuff in his misguided dedication for his wife, shes the religious one, he's just trying to make her dreams (grandkids) come true. I even get the feeling he doesnt care at all about maya's sexuality but feels like its his obligation to his wife to shove maja in a different direction (which is of course wrong and misguided).

And of course the way he treats maya sucks badly and is abusive but he became that way because its just too much shit to handle for him in his life like derek explains. This guy is just broken and he needs help (like therapy) instead of a beat down imo.

Darkwen · Dec 11, 2023

Hahn81 said:
I played my neutral-allin playthrough just right now... in episode 8 going for Jill, so breakup with Josy and Maya. Josy is total devasted, and she said it herself that she was in love with him, and maya (sage too) are telling that they feel something for MC but not as strong as Josy obviously...

Its not really hard to figure that out without doing a "breakup" with them... Especially at episode 7 and 8 its clear as daylight that Josys feeling are WAY stronger towards MC than Mayas. Even Elena sees that "this is love"

Josy is my favorite girl, was kinda hard to watch that... but curiosity got the better of me.

Well the shrooms saved my mood at least

Agreed, I couldn't a breakup run sad Josy is not good should be a crime

ciberma7865 · Dec 11, 2023

siemanko123 said:
anyone knows what scenes I'm missing? thanks in advance View attachment 3165832

First three are Madam last is Cathy

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