| If anyone wants the perfect showcase of "simple art =/= bad animation," simply watch Mob Psycho. Just because the characters don't look crisp and polished like your typical ufotable production doesn't make the animation bad. Then again, you're asking people like this to use more than 2 brain cells. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
nwssx said: Your argument is literally to call the other person a liar because you don't like their opinion. If they agreed with you you'd be shouting "Look! Look! This CGI artist agrees with me!"Evelyn7495 said: it's crazy how you went as far as lying like this to prove your terrible take ☕️ and if you really are a """CG artist""" as you claim I bet the fact that they cut a lot on the shitty CGI S1 had offended you too much to appreciate the strong 2D cuts this first episode of the second season offered its cute that you're saying this to a CG Artist, but sure big boi, noone can beat your knowledge. You are allowed to like a certain style of animation without embarrassing yourself and spewing bs But do continue embarrassing yourself. |
| The animation and art style looks so clean which allows fights and character movement to be fluid as opposed how the heavily defined edges made it more clunky in S1. Cannot believe people hate this type of art direction. This season is gonna be so good. |
Evelyn7495 said: Doomatic said: i usually don't complain about the animation since plot is the main factor for me but this season's animation is actually bad. the movie that came out last year also had a simplified design in comparison to season 1 but it was good. but this season, even the character movements are weird. they had 3 years to make this, how did they even end up making the anime look this weird. the backgrounds are all ok, the characters and their movements are awful. i just hope its because i watched the leaked version that had this issue, i'll watch the official episode again tonight and i hope, at least the motions are betterOkay I see so many post on about how season 2 ANIMATION is bad and how they want the old style. And I just gotta say: that a simpler art style doesnt mean the animation itself is bad. Just looking at both trailers for season 2, I can proudly say that the animation is better than season 1. Its more cleaning, the compositing is better, the characters blend in very well with the atmosphere and backgrounds, and the animation itself was very swift and fluid. I am a fan of season 1 art style and its color palate (besides the backgrounds, they never blended in and looking very gritty and low quality), but I kind of like Season 2 artstyle and animation better. The simpler animation style allows for the animations to focus more on the animation itself. I mean damn, even in season 1 when the Todo and Itadori vs Hanami fight came, the animation quite obviously became more simpiler and this really resulted into a clean and fluid fight scene, which is still aguraly one of the best fight scenes in recent anime. I just wanted to say that just because the art style has became simpler in season 2, that doresnt mean the animation itself is bad and I see alot of people really confusing the difference between art and animation. Cant wait for the new episode tomorrow, and the second trailer already showed some cold ass scene transitions/camera movement. what is this take. the movie did not have simplified designs. The animation is objectively better this season, the character acting, constant movement and fluidity, the composition and the new art director with better backgrounds. The cgi backgrounds were atrocious in s1 and blended horribly I feel like people just forget about them. s1 had no character acting with basic shonen directing. they did not have "3 years" to make this, they share the same producer and core staff as Csm which finished production late December 6 months ago. Even then how do you contradict yourself saying "the movie last year" and then say they had "3 years to make this" |
 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
DisconnectedUser said: >embarassing myselfnwssx said: Your argument is literally to call the other person a liar because you don't like their opinion. If they agreed with you you'd be shouting "Look! Look! This CGI artist agrees with me!"it's crazy how you went as far as lying like this to prove your terrible take ☕️ and if you really are a """CG artist""" as you claim I bet the fact that they cut a lot on the shitty CGI S1 had offended you too much to appreciate the strong 2D cuts this first episode of the second season offered But do continue embarrassing yourself. lmfao, you people calling this sakugafest that episode 1 was "bad" is one of the most braindead things I've ever seen - nearly as braindead as when some people hated on Ikarashi's Heavenly Delusion #10, I wonder who is actually imbarassing themselves and being delusional and totally ignorant here |
nwssx said: You're literally putting words in my mouth. I never said this was bad. In fact I never commented on the quality in the first place lmaoDisconnectedUser said: >embarassing myselfYour argument is literally to call the other person a liar because you don't like their opinion. If they agreed with you you'd be shouting "Look! Look! This CGI artist agrees with me!" But do continue embarrassing yourself. lmfao, you people calling this sakugafest that episode 1 was "bad" is one of the most braindead things I've ever seen - nearly as braindead as when some people hated on Ikarashi's Heavenly Delusion #10, I wonder who is actually imbarassing themselves and being delusional and totally ignorant here |
DisconnectedUserJul 6, 2023 1:08 PM
DisconnectedUser said: nwssx said: Your argument is literally to call the other person a liar because you don't like their opinion. If they agreed with you you'd be shouting "Look! Look! This CGI artist agrees with me!"it's crazy how you went as far as lying like this to prove your terrible take ☕️ and if you really are a """CG artist""" as you claim I bet the fact that they cut a lot on the shitty CGI S1 had offended you too much to appreciate the strong 2D cuts this first episode of the second season offered But do continue embarrassing yourself. what the. How is the other person not doing the same? they are not providing anything to prove their point just stating they are a cg artist after spewing nonsense about an episode animated better than s1 being worse |
𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
DeFa- said: They are doing the same. I never said they weren't. However if they were agreeing with the animation being better the people on that side wouldn't comment on it at all or would in fact use the CGI artist part as confirmation for being right. But because they disagree they're being called a liar. It's straight up embarrassing.DisconnectedUser said: Your argument is literally to call the other person a liar because you don't like their opinion. If they agreed with you you'd be shouting "Look! Look! This CGI artist agrees with me!" But do continue embarrassing yourself. what the. How is the other person not doing the same? they are not providing anything to prove their point just stating they are a cg artist after spewing nonsense about an episode animated better than s1 being worse EDIT: Also the people saying the animation is good kinda started it by saying things like "these morons don't know how to draw let alone animate" as if that matters. Well, apparently it does. Yet the second an artist comes along it doesn't and it's a lie because they don't agree with them. |
DisconnectedUserJul 6, 2023 1:25 PM
DisconnectedUser said: DeFa- said: They are doing the same. I never said they weren't. However if they were agreeing with the animation being better the people on that side wouldn't comment on it at all or would in fact use the CGI artist part as confirmation for being right. But because they disagree they're being called a liar. It's straight up embarrassing.what the. How is the other person not doing the same? they are not providing anything to prove their point just stating they are a cg artist after spewing nonsense about an episode animated better than s1 being worse EDIT: Also the people saying the animation is good kinda started it by saying things like "these morons don't know how to draw let alone animate" as if that matters. Well, apparently it does. Yet the second an artist comes along it doesn't and it's a lie because they don't agree with them. so basically, they are doing the same thing but you decide to call one person embarrassing because of something you imagined they would do instead of what was currently happening? Now, that is quite embarrassing and delusional. |
𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
| It's giving me Bakemonogatari Vibes and I love it. |
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DeFa- said: Take a good look at the thread then come back. I'm literally calling out the side being more hypocritical. If the other person had continued the same route I'd be calling them out too.DisconnectedUser said: They are doing the same. I never said they weren't. However if they were agreeing with the animation being better the people on that side wouldn't comment on it at all or would in fact use the CGI artist part as confirmation for being right. But because they disagree they're being called a liar. It's straight up embarrassing. EDIT: Also the people saying the animation is good kinda started it by saying things like "these morons don't know how to draw let alone animate" as if that matters. Well, apparently it does. Yet the second an artist comes along it doesn't and it's a lie because they don't agree with them. so basically, they are doing the same thing but you decide to call one person embarrassing because of something you imagined they would do instead of what was currently happening? Now, that is quite embarrassing and delusional. |
DisconnectedUser said: DeFa- said: Take a good look at the thread then come back. I'm literally calling out the side being more hypocritical. If the other person had continued the same route I'd be calling them out too.so basically, they are doing the same thing but you decide to call one person embarrassing because of something you imagined they would do instead of what was currently happening? Now, that is quite embarrassing and delusional. it's not helping your case by judging what others say in the thread and then applying that to a different person. that is just stupid. You come in and call 1 person embarrassing when 2 people are doing the same thing only because "different" people with the same stance were being "hypocritical" apparently. Now how on earth does that make any sense, you are judging a person because of that you have seen others do and created your own imaginative world where the person would have responded how you would expect and judged him on that. That is embarrassing |
𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
| The director has changed, so of course, there will be some changes in the animation. Yes, season 1's animation was good. But season 2's animation is not bad either. The only thing that caught my eye was Gojo's eyes. They were more well-animated in season 1. Other than that, I have nothing to complain about. By far I loved episode 1. |
Araragi-kun, genki ii ne? Nanika iikoto demo attanokai?  |
DeFa- said: Okay, sure. Bringing up the other guy was semi irrelevant besides to why the CGI artist guy might have mentioned it in the first place.DisconnectedUser said: Take a good look at the thread then come back. I'm literally calling out the side being more hypocritical. If the other person had continued the same route I'd be calling them out too. it's not helping your case by judging what others say in the thread and then applying that to a different person. that is just stupid. You come in and call 1 person embarrassing when 2 people are doing the same thing only because "different" people with the same stance were being "hypocritical" apparently. Now how on earth does that make any sense, you are judging a person because of that you have seen others do and created your own imaginative world where the person would have responded how you would expect and judged him on that. That is embarrassing But are you seriously going to argue that if they agreed with the animation being good then the other people who agree with him would have just come in and said "Hey man, I agree that the animation is good but you're lying. You're not a CGI artist." Yeah, didn't think so. So then don't comment on the guy saying they're a CGI artist in the first place. That's the hypocritical part. |
Evelyn7495 said: but it does not make the fact the motions were badly done, that they're not quite as smooth as they should be a lie. Evelyn7495 said: i did not say every single aspect of this seasons' animation is awful, but the movements and motions are pretty noticibale and even you should be able to see how they lack. the backgrounds were done pretty nicely, the characters are generally ok but they did downgrade gojo saturo and at some angles he pretty much looks like he was drawn by a middle schooler. even that can be overlooked, but it does not make the fact the motions were badly done, that they're not quite as smooth as they should be a lie. also it is ok to comment and disagree with other people and to have a discussion, but it's different when you start insulting others for the sake of defending your favorite anime. i'm saying this as a response to the other comment you left. the other person was being rude just to disagree. you think the animation is great? good for you, enjoy it Is there any sort of "movement" you can show as an example, because the entire episode had amazing character animation and motion compared to the first season which was zoomed in on the character when they were talking. This season is already more dynamic in just basic conversations. You are saying gojo looks like he was drawn by a middle schooler, what exactly are you referencing? His character design? chibi artstyle? out of frame? because anything I saw that looked like your description was plenty prevalent in the first season. |
𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
| Whatever it is I hate it, its like a totally different show. |
| I'm not surprised people are complaining about the animation considering people complain about almost anything that has popularity or a fan following. I think the animation did this on purpose anyways to fit the tone of what's happening at the moment in the show. I'm sure it'll get darker and cleaner once the past arc is near it's end/over. |
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thehornedrat said: Everyone says its cinematic....well, yes. Visual story telling elements are nice. the use of CGI allows the principle photography to be enhanced. CGI means more angles and lens effects can be used. Movements is slightly janky, you dont see the smoothness that we see in the more experienced studios that have been using all CGI and mocap since forever, like ComixWave, Sanzigen, Studio Orange, Ufotable and Sunrise, but with more experience, Mappa will get there. 3D characters polished to look 2D. You dont notice it outright unlike in other studios' work, particularly by Sanzigen and Studio Orange, which still leave that 3D-ness of their character design: usually more textures that's clearly too much work for hand drawn 2D. Except that they're not 3D characters, so you're going on a pointless rant. |
| Unfortunately, the anime community has proven time and time again that people speak out of their asses and have no idea what they're talking about when they say "bad animation" but refer to the art. I can't explain how many times I've seen someone talk about "bad animation" and use a STILL ie a SCREENSHOT as an "example". |
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| I really like the colour palette of JJK . In season 1 the colours used during fightings suited very well with the atmosphere . ( For eg . when Hanami enters the fight in juju tech , the environment changes from blue to yellowish colour . The colour changed due to usage of veil by enemy. Season 2's usage of colour palette improved a lot than season 1 . The gojo's past arc's environment and surroundings are very beautiful. I hope they can maintain a dark unsettling environment during shibuya arc. |
| I think the simpler art style used for some of the scenes was really good, and I felt like they were more focused on using style and animation techniques based on the scenes from the manga itself which I loved. |
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| I agree. I prefer the season one animation, but I am having a good time with this one. |
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| Depends on individual examples. I prefer more modern and sophisticated art, but not at expense of the story and characters. However, what a good character is, is subjective and quality of art is objective. Story and characters has to appeal to me or I trash it. |
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Dragon456hon said: I agree that it's not a bad art, maybe they had some problems which explained why the season 2 took a long time to get released, maybe the art style and the frames will get better with time. This look is not a "problem". |
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